Home Politics Tea Party Socialist Politics Tea Party Socialist By donar - Feb 24, 2012 0 13 SHARE Facebook Twitter tweet RELATED ARTICLESMORE FROM AUTHOR Windows 10 Detailed Review – Apps, Menus, Improvements, Features and More WhatsApp vs. Traditional SMS – Is WhatsApp Costly than SMS? 5 Features That Will Disappear in Windows 10 and How to Get Them Back cranky critter More supply is more supply. Angela Creation of jobs. Jacob Cranky: That’s not the point. But you know that. You’re just being cranky. cranky critter Then please explain the point for me Jacob. How silly of me to presume that the US either benefits from producing more oil, or doesn’t benefit. How evern sillier of me to then think, “hmm, probably we DO benefit.” Angela I’m not too well read on this issue, but it seems to me that countries that produce oil for the world market play games with supply so as to affect price. Increasing supply doens’t make lower prices inevitable. If the supply stays with us, demand may go up, and refineries may find themselves operating at max capacity, which would cause a price increase. Tea party socialist. I get it. I’m not impressed. Jacob My impression is that the cartoon is highlighting the idea that “drill baby drill” folks think US oil will flow right into US gas tanks – a misconception Tea Party politicians certainly aren’t trying to dispel. I think a good many Tea Party folks response to the fact that our oil will go to the world market would be “‘eff that! It’s our oil! Give it to us!”. Kind of a hypocritical position, as noted above. But of course you’re correct, more supply is more supply and might even benefit us. That’s just not the point of the cartoon. cranky critter I don’t see how that’s really a misconception worth quibbling over. What’s the evidence that tea partiers, as a group are afflicted with this slight oversimplification? What’s the problem with simply presuming that folks who say “drill baby drill” simply think the policy would potentially benefit America over the longer term in the form of lower fuel prices and a net increase in potential domestic supply? Jacob What’s the problem with simply presuming that folks who say “drill baby drill” simply think the policy would potentially benefit America over the longer term in the form of lower fuel prices and a net increase in potential domestic supply? The problem is that I have yet to see evidence of thoughtful and nuanced Tea Party policy positions. I have no problem presuming that you might feel that way, but you are often thoughtful and nuanced. Also, you’ve probably never carried a protest sign reading “Government keep your hands off my Medicare!” I’m just saying, if we’re going to presume something about the Tea Party it’s not going to be a comprehensive grasp on the intricacies of the global oil market. rafrostick http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/02/27/is-obama-really-to-blame-for-rising-gas-prices-do-you-really-care/ get read up on the issue, please WHQ Well, it’s a cartoon. The question isn’t whether or not “drill, baby, drill” with an assumption that doing so will have a significant effect on oil and gas prices (justifying whatever environmental risks must be taken) is unique to Tea Partiers. The question is whether such a thing is sufficiently inconsistent with the stated views of Tea Partiers that it makes the Tea Party character in the cartoon inappropriate. I’ve gotten some chain e-mails putting forth very similar points of view from people I know to be at least sympathetic to the (very loose coalition known as the) Tea Party over the last few years, and this certainly sounds similar to some things Sarah Palin has said. The cartoon works, AFAICT, whether or not it makes a comprehensive statement about the Tea Party, which is likely impossible, anyway. Angela Thanks rafro, I read the article. Also read an article on the Koch brothers and AFP. Always open to learning. Angela At the risk of being off topic, (feel no need to comment on the cartoon), the companies (or governments, whatever the case may be) who ship goods globally, should the cost of oil continue to go up, would have to increase their bill for shipping. Imported goods, and using cheap labor outside of the borders, may not be as competitive in price, or as profitable, respectively, which would be good for the U.S. Scott S Whether producing domestic oil lowers gas prices or not, it will generate jobs including exploration, production, transportation, maintenance, refinement and more investment into newer exploration technology or alternative technologies. New jobs lowers unemployment costs, and generates income tax. All positives when our economy is struggling and our deficits are growing. Right now, we are exporting dollars – let’s keep some of that in house by producing our own oil.